Ilyse and Lindsay sit down with grief activist, author, and podcast host Lisa Keefauver to talk about her journey through grief and her book, "Grief is a Sneaky Bitch: An Uncensored Guide to Navigating Loss." They dive in to the lack of grief support in western culture and what we ACTUALLY need when processing grief, of course touching in to the joys and whimsies.

Lisa Keefauver, MSW is a Grief Activist who transformed her personal and professional experiences with loss into a mission to reimagine grief. As host of a top-rated grief podcast, TEDx and keynote speaker, adjunct professor, and author of Grief is a Sneaky Bitch: An Uncensored Guide to Navigating Loss, she is expanding our collective story of grief.

You can find Lisa Keefauver at https://lisakeefauver.com/

Visit https://www.thehillingjourney.com/ to learn more.