A slate of new articles analyzes Pope Francis through America’s progressive-conservative polarization, but are they confusing political categories with theological ones? Surprising data show that Gen Z is returning to religion, and belief in an afterlife is on the rise, but what's the explanation? Are young people returning to the church to rebel against their secular parents? Former Ohio Governor John Kasich believes America is on the cusp of a spiritual revival, and his new book, “Heaven Help Us,” explores how religious institutions are leading the way. He talks to Skye about how God used tragedy to awaken his own faith, and why he thinks this present era of greed and cowardice will pass. Also this week—a bunny, a Boeing, and a Bible illustration.

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2:40 - Theme Song

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6:22 - Rare Rabbit Strike!

14:10 - Progressive Christians and the Pope

21:50 - What Even is Progressive Christianity?

32:44 - Is Gen Z Becoming Religious?

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53:50 - Interview

56:15 - Kasich’s Testimony

1:03:15 - Institutions to Help the Individual

1:11:30 - Religious Division

1:22:00 - What Will Kasich Do Next?

1:28:45 - End Credits

Links from News Segment:

Rabbit in a Jet Engine!

https://people.com/rabbit-causes-fire-on-united-airlines-flight-after-animal-is-sucked-into-engine-11716879

The Atlantic Article on Progressive Christianity Post-Pope: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/04/pope-francis-future-church/682543/?utm_medium=offsite&utm_source=flipboard&utm_campaign=ideas

The New York Times Article on Progressive Christianity Post-Pope:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/24/us/pope-christians.html?utm_source=flipboard&utm_content=newyorktimes/magazine/U.S

Belief in an Afterlife is Increasing:

https://www.graphsaboutreligion.com/p/belief-in-an-afterlife-is-increasing

Other Resources:

Heaven Help Us: How Faith Communities Inspire Hope, Strengthen Neighborhoods, and Build the Future by John Kasich: https://a.co/d/dKAgkBj

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