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On today’s episode of Curveball, host Scott Reich welcomes Baratunde Thurston: best-selling author, comedian, and host of the podcast “How to Citizen.” Baratunde brings his signature blend of humor, honesty, and depth to conversations about race, democracy, and belonging, making tough topics feel both personal and urgent.
Together, Scott and Baratunde dive into the transformative power of humor, the complexities of “citizening,” and the bittersweet journey of reconciling with our parents as we grow into ourselves—even beyond the lives and limitations they lived. Baratunde shares stories from his childhood in Washington D.C., his experience processing the traumatic loss of his father, and the extraordinary sacrifices of his mother, whose strengths and flaws helped shape his perspective on empathy, resilience, and love.
From exploring how we rewrite our personal narratives to reimagining what it means to be a citizen in an age where technology is reshaping society, this episode is a heartfelt discussion about agency, compassion, and self-discovery. Get ready for laughter, raw truth, and plenty of thought-provoking insights—because this conversation will inspire you to reflect on your own curveballs and the hidden opportunities for growth within them.
Listeners Will Learn:
- Baratunde spoke honestly about his father’s absence and loss.
- The episode explores the concept of ‘citizening’ as an active verb.
- Baratunde uses humor as a tool for activism.
- Baratunde described his mother as both a hero and a complex individual with flaws.
- The discussion touched on reframing negative experiences and finding meaning in adversity.
- Scott and Baratunde talked about the importance of empathy and recognizing that everyone carries unseen burdens.
- Baratunde acknowledged that he had placed his mother on a pedestal in his earlier work, only later realizing the value of seeing her more fully.
- The episode discussed the challenges of intergenerational understanding, especially with the rise of technology and social media.
- Baratunde’s relationship with his partner, Elizabeth, helped him see new dimensions of love and vulnerability.
- The conversation concluded with thoughts on civic responsibility in the face of emerging artificial intelligence and social change.
Key Moments:
(08:40) Finding Meaning After Loss
(10:56) Empathy, Connection, and Societal Tragedy
(13:00) Finding Growth Through Loss
(16:18) Trauma's Impact on Mind & Body
(20:00) Breaking Family Trauma Cycles
(25:53) Recognizing Parental Fallibility
(26:40) Navigating Trauma and Growth
(32:49) Knowing Is Essential to Love
(36:05) Love Languages and Growth
(38:02) Adults Processing Struggles Transparently
(42:05) Baratunde on Relationships and Technology
(45:30) "Future, Morality, and Human Connection
(46:53) Society Over Market Priorities
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