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Flying during a shutdown? You’re still in the air thanks to the air traffic controllers working without pay (again). While the government stalls, ATC staff are quietly keeping planes moving despite decade-long shortages, outdated tech, and a very difficult training process.
Could air traffic controllers help end the government shutdown? (Max Zahn, ABC News, Oct 9, 2025)
Air Traffic Controller Qualifications (FAA(dot)gov, accessed October 13, 2025)
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*This episode was recorded in a cruise ship cabin.
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