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Flying during a shutdown? You’re still in the air thanks to the air traffic controllers working without pay (again). While the government stalls, ATC staff are quietly keeping planes moving despite decade-long shortages, outdated tech, and a very difficult training process.

Could air traffic controllers help end the government shutdown? (Max Zahn, ABC News, Oct 9, 2025)

Air traffic control staffing problems continue to cause delays as shutdown drags on (Pete Muntean, Nicky Brown, Aaron Cooper, CNN, Oct 10, 2025)

Air Traffic Controller Qualifications (FAA(dot)gov, accessed October 13, 2025)

‘Really a mess’: US’s air traffic control system suffering from years of neglect (Steven Greenhouse, The Guardian, May 10, 2025)

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*This episode was recorded in a cruise ship cabin.

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