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In this week's episode of The Autism Mums Podcast, we discuss the challenges faced by parents navigating the waiting period for their child's autism diagnosis. We explore strategies for gathering evidence, advocating for support, and managing the differences in behaviour between home and school settings. With practical tips and personal insights, we aim to empower parents to take proactive steps during this often frustrating and isolating time.
Key Takeaways
Understanding the Waiting Game: Many parents face the challenge of navigating the waiting period for their child's autism diagnosis, often feeling isolated and unsure of the next steps.
Coping at Home vs. School: Children may present differently at school compared to home, leading to discrepancies in support. It’s vital to gather evidence of behaviours at home to advocate effectively.
Gathering Evidence: Documenting your child's struggles through video recordings or diaries can provide crucial evidence when communicating with schools and professionals.
Utilising School Resources: Engage with schools to explore options like re-engagement sessions, youth workers, or alternative therapies that can provide support and evidence for assessments.
Professional Input Matters: Involving various professionals—such as therapists, tutors, and behavioural nurses—can strengthen your case for support and diagnosis by offering diverse perspectives on your child's needs.
Stay Proactive: Regularly follow up with schools and professionals regarding assessments, and don’t hesitate to reach out to your MP if you encounter significant delays in the process.
Explore Alternative Routes: Consider different pathways for assessments, such as CAMHS or private assessments, which may have shorter waiting times compared to traditional routes.
Community Support: Connecting with other parents and support groups can provide invaluable advice and encouragement during the challenging waiting period.
Self-Care for Parents: Acknowledge the emotional toll that waiting for a diagnosis can take, and we really recommend prioritising self-care to maintain your well-being while advocating for your child.
Resource Recommendations: Explore recommended books and resources that can provide further insight and support for navigating autism-related challenges.
Mentioned in This Episode
The Explosive Child by Ross Greene
Raising The SEN-Betweeners by Lisa Lloyd
Aspergers Syndrome by Tony Attwood
The Girl with the Curly Hair by Alis Rowe
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Transcript
Navigating the Waiting Game: Essential Tips for Parents of Kids with Autism
Natalie Tealdi: [00:00:00] in this episode, we discuss the challenges faced by parents navigating the waiting period for their child's autism diagnosis. We explore
strategies for gathering evidence, advocating for support, and
managing the differences in behavior between home and school
settings.
Practical tips and personal
insights. We want parents to know that we get how frustrating and
isolating this time can be. It really can be so hard, but there are
things you can do to feel more empowered, and we are going to share
some of this with you today.
Victoria
Bennion: That's right. And we really hope it makes a
difference to you.
Natalie
Tealdi: So I've had a few conversations this week with
parents who have children who are in that in-between stage where
they're waiting for a diagnosis and , they're not attending school
and they're stuck. They have no support and they're not really sure
what to do. And I think that's one of the hardest.
Parts. One of the families the
child is at school and seemingly coping at school, but [00:01:00]
at home really not coping at all. And then there seems to be a
barrier of support there because there's no diagnosis. And then
another has been off school for, I think it was two years
Victoria
Bennion: Two.
Natalie
Tealdi: Yeah. And then waiting for a specialist placement,
denied one and then left
Victoria
Bennion: What?
Natalie
Tealdi: I know with the parent not really knowing what to
do. So I thought it might be helpful to talk around what you can do
in those situations
so we talked about eh, HCPs
and the fact that you can do a parental
one,
we've talked about before,
haven't we? And I think, but the key thing here is the evidence. So
the, stumbling block is if school aren't seeing those behaviors, if
they're masking or if they're keeping it all in, what can they do?
Victoria
Bennion: So I've spoken to people in the past where this
has been an issue. This is a really common issue,
Their approaches both of those
was to video their children when they were having meltdowns and show
the school that might be what you see, but this is what we see.
This is how they're [00:02:00]
struggling. And I know certainly for one of my friends, that was
really key in the school changing their perception of how the child
was coping and. Putting in extra support and supporting a diagnosis
at that point, my friend didn't have a diagnosis for a child.
Natalie
Tealdi: Right. That's a really good tip.
Victoria
Bennion: Yeah,
Natalie
Tealdi: I think when it comes to eh HCPs, it's getting the
evidence, isn't it? Wherever you can,
Victoria
Bennion: There's different ways you can do it. This did
come up, I was talking to someone this week about how do you get
evidence maybe if your child's not in school and there's nobody else
except the parent to. Observe these behaviors and these struggles,
and it caused me to reflect on what I've done.
Both of my children, it was
like a bit of an explosion and it all happened very fast. Both of
them, it was e HCPs, running alongside school difficulties and being
on the pathway to be assessed. With one of my children, she changed
schools. So this school she was currently at, they didn't know her.
They had really nothing at
that [00:03:00] point, she was unable to
attend school because she couldn't cope there. That was just over a
year. She was offered to go on re-engagement sessions at the school.
Sometimes some schools will put something in place, and this was at
her old school, so she felt comfortable there to attend. That gave
the new school, or at least a couple of members of staff. An
opportunity to get to know her a bit and to make their own opinion.
It did not help reengage her in school, but it did help that evidence
trail. And actually, I think it was really crucial because one of
them, when it came to going through the EHCP process. member of staff
who was in the engagement sessions talked to the educational
psychologist, and she was able to say that my child was masking
highly and she only needed to say a little bit, but it gave weights
otherwise we had nothing to show.
Something I asked for at the
time was the horse course. I'd [00:04:00]
heard it talked about before in the community as being a good option
if you've got a child with anxiety. I was having to have regular
meetings about my child's non-attendance. So I asked if it would be
possible for them to beep, put forward for the horse course, which
they agreed readily. That took place over a week.
Then there was a report at the
end of it, and then we had that additional evidence.
The school put in place a
youth worker who met with my child once a week. So that's another
person that's involved with your child who can have input into things
like eh, HCPs. Even the diagnosis process potentially, rather than,
again, just a parent saying, my child's struggling.
We took my child to see a
psychotherapist. So again, another professional we tried, cams were
rejected in the first instance because of the re-engagement sessions
with the school, interestingly.
The GP had to refer again once
those sessions had finished, because it was, felt that my child was
getting support through those [00:05:00]
sessions because they included art therapy and things like that
But once my child had the
sessions with cams, when those sessions were taking place when the
EHCP needs assessment was taking place. I funded some tutoring for my
child. At the beginning of the year, for a few months in.
There was the tutor's
observations of her behavior, how my child liked to learn, those kind
of things. We were able then to draw on those different perspectives
and we did do that quite quickly. We've done that over the last year.
So going from a place of probably the person you're talking about,
that there's no evidence, how can I do an EHCP to actually finding
those different
Natalie
Tealdi: can pull together
things, can't you? I know that
I've done in the past I've kept a diary with dates of what's been
going on at home, and that can be used as evidence as well. And if
you are having meetings with the school. There's minutes taken from
these meetings and you can request those and use those as evidence as
well.
So it all helps build up a
picture.
Victoria
Bennion: Yeah, that's such good [00:06:00]
ideas.
You need to do everything you
can to evidence what's going on.
Natalie
Tealdi: Yeah, exactly. It's not just, oh, well they're
fine when they're at school and they're not at home. And that's the
end of it. It's up to us, isn't it? To dig deeper.
Victoria
Bennion: yes it is I would say I don't think it can hurt
to have. Opinions of different professionals. So if you're seeing a
behavioral nurse, if
Natalie
Tealdi: yeah,
Victoria
Bennion: you've got those professionals involved at
meetings, at school, their opinions, they all count. Social workers,
anything, it can just help form a picture.
But those that have to make
the decision,
Natalie
Tealdi: And for anyone who's just stuck at home, it's
chasing up the council,
Victoria
Bennion: yes.
Natalie
Tealdi: your MP involved if it's really not moving.
what's really worked for us,
isn't it?
Victoria
Bennion: Yeah we've been really lucky, but getting the MPS
involved was really helpful. . I know something we've talked about
before, but if you are applying for an HCP and a parental one all
through the school, it's really a [00:07:00]
good idea to know those dates.
They give you the outline of
the dates that they will get things back to you.
Mark it in your calendar and
don't be afraid to chase up. You don't have to chase up horribly if
you're worried, but just inquire and it puts your child back on their
radar. In my experience, they tend to check and give you an update.
There might be particular days
that the provisional leaders working. You can note that and try to
email on those days,
But drive the process as much
as you can.
Natalie
Tealdi: Yeah.
Victoria
Bennion: In my experience, that certainly helps.
Natalie
Tealdi: another thing that's come up for us is I am
starting the process with my youngest. To see if we need an
assessment. So we're right at the early stages there, but we're
seeing some behaviors that I think are a bit concerning. But I've
been told that the criteria now for putting them forward for
assessment is much stricter than it was.
And the reason I was given was
because there are so many people waiting. So they've made it
[00:08:00] stricter,
Victoria
Bennion: Well,
that makes sense.
Natalie
Tealdi: which really wound me up because. Obviously
There's more people that are being recognized as struggling and so
they're gonna make it harder for them to get support. I don't think
that's quite the right way round
here.
Victoria
Bennion: No, it really doesn't sound the right way round,
does it?
Natalie
Tealdi: No, not at all. So I'll report back.
Victoria
Bennion: Yeah. Let us know how that's going. I do
sometimes wonder if the worse a child is suffering, the quicker
Natalie
Tealdi: Yeah,
I think, the ones that hold it
in and seem to be coping okay, seem to get missed more because
they're not causing problems
Victoria
Bennion: Yeah, certainly
for one of my children who
held it in, it was only until they weren't holding it in anymore,
couldn't hold it in anymore, that everything kicked off and. I do
wonder with my other child if it's when they stopped attending school
and you've got that absence, building up that it's [00:09:00]
absolutely can't cope.
Explosion. It's such a shame
that children have to get to that point where they're in such a
state. You think of the damage that's already been done before they
get to that point
Natalie
Tealdi: It shouldn't be that way.
Victoria
Bennion: It comes back to the campaigns for early
screenings, for early support,
and what you are just talking
about is the opposite
really.
Natalie
Tealdi: Yeah, I know, and, because as a parent, you're so
aware of the waiting list being so long that I'm quite aware. I don't
wanna get to the point, not that I'm saying we will, but if we did
get to that point where burnout happened or major mental breakdown,
you then have to go on to the beginning of that waiting list to get a
diagnosis, which just takes so long.
Victoria
Bennion: The waiting list for the pediatricians was 18
months to four years,
only a year ago. However, ,
there's more than one way. There's the right to choose. And if you
are under cams and Cams feel you need an assessment. They have their
own [00:10:00] NDAC team
that they can refer a child
to, and they will carry out the assessments and it was a much shorter
waiting list I think the waiting list at CAMS was around six months.
Then once you have your
appointments, I don't know how yours were with your child, but they
were much closer together, so it was a much shorter period of time.
So with my youngest child, who was the first one to go through the
process, the appointments took, it was from the November to the May.
There were appointments taking
place, and with my second child, it was maybe a couple of months.
So that's another thing for
parents and carers to consider. The other
routes.
Natalie
Tealdi: Yeah.
Victoria
Bennion: I've also heard of people going for a private
assessment and I know there's difficulties in this. So one of my
friends, her child. Needed an assessment for A DHD ' cause she needs
the support now.
She joined the list. And
again, it was a huge list and they didn't feel that they had the time
[00:11:00] to wait with the amount that
this child was struggling to attend school.
She needed support put in
place at school, which they found it hard to fight for without the
diagnosis. So they paid to go privately. They were lucky that they
could afford to do that, and that diagnosis helped get the support at
school and the accommodations that this child needed to be able to
attend.
What it didn't do, and you may
know this is
Medication can't be
prescribed, so that's just crazy to me. I don't understand that.
Natalie
Tealdi: I don't understand And usually they're the same
doctors that work privately as well as for the NHS.
So I really, it doesn't make
any sense
to
Victoria
Bennion: It doesn't, my friend was saying that her child
still has to stay on the waiting list for an A DHD assessment at the
hospital
So that she will be able to
get the medication she needs. Which just doubles up their...
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