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In this episode of Metabolic Mastery, Dr. Marc Humbert and Dr. Cameron Garber sit down with Diane Owen – a photographer, mom of three, and graduate of the Becoming Body Smart program – to unpack what true, long-term change looks like from the client's side.
Diane shares how she went from an "on again, off again" athlete stuck in a painful injury–weight gain cycle to a consistent runner logging 6 days a week, 1,000+ miles a year, multiple half marathons, and 22 minutes off her half-marathon time – all while avoiding burnout and major injury. You'll hear how VO₂ testing, low heart-rate (Zone 2) training, and data-driven coaching helped her repair her relationship with exercise, food, and her own identity as an athlete.
Whether you're a clinician, coach, or everyday runner who feels like you've "tried everything," this conversation shows how the right data, the right plan, and relentless consistency can completely change what you believe is possible.
What You'll LearnHow Diane broke a years-long cycle of overtraining, injury, and weight regain
Why VO₂ and metabolic testing helped her finally trust that her body wasn't broken
What true Zone 2 / low heart-rate training looks and feels like in real life
How to use heart rate and symptoms as data, not drama, to guide your training
The difference between "just resting" and smart load management that keeps you moving
How slow, consistent progress led to 22 minutes off her half marathon and ~1,200 miles/year
Practical ways Diane and her husband plan runs into a busy family schedule
How shifting from "I'm not an athlete" to "I can do hard things" reshaped her identity and relationships
Why focusing on health behaviors first (not the scale) protected her resting metabolic rate
How to talk to clients about going three layers deep on their "why" so they're ready to change
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