"If we were twins in the belly of our mama, I'd reach over and strangle him"

Sport is all about debate. Who is the best, who is the most famous and who has had the most impact? Many would say that Muhammad Ali is the greatest figure in sport, but you could argue that he’s one half of the greatest rivalry in world sport of all time as well with Joe Frazier.

In this episode of How It All Played Out Mark and Paul start in 1964 to understand how these two boxing titans became who they were and how their fighting history, mixed with politics fueled a fierce rivalry.

It involves religion, war, class, money and race relations to build a feud like no other. From the war in Vietnam to Madison Square Garden, this trilogy of fights not only remains iconic today, but would go on to change the face of boxing forever.

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