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What happens when you put two Hollywood stunt doubles on a group trip to Morocco? They push your 4x4 out of the mud during a historic Sahara Desert flood, coordinate everyone like it's a stunt scene, and completely change how you think about fear.

Meredith and Dorenda are two of my favorite travel companions, and honestly, some of the most badass women I know. They literally get set on fire, thrown off buildings, and punched in the face for a living - yet when it comes to travel, they're some of the calmest, most grounded people you'll ever meet.

Here's what fascinates me: people who do incredibly dangerous things professionally often have a completely different relationship with fear than the rest of us. They've spent their entire careers assessing real risk versus perceived risk, and that skill translates beautifully to travel. We're talking about how to distinguish between actual danger and unfamiliarity, why surrounding yourself with people doing the "scary" thing makes it less scary, and what happened when an earthquake hit Morocco while we were there (spoiler: the stunt doubles were the calmest ones in the room).

Plus, you'll hear about ATVs in the Sahara, pregnant bellies on set, sandstorms, flash floods, and why Meredith would rather get set on fire than deal with airline customer service.

Upcoming Trips Mentioned:

  • Cuba: Dec 27, 2025 - Jan 3, 2026
  • Kenya: March 25 - April 4, 2026
  • Morocco: April 10 - April 19, 2026

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