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In this episode of the Goals.com Podcast, Andrew Rice sits down with Michèle Hecken, entrepreneur, advisor, and bestselling author of The Art of Offboarding, to unpack how leaders can build businesses that run without burning them out. Michèle shares her journey from scaling a global company to exiting with freedom, and explains why traditional delegation falls short. She breaks down the “Art of Offboarding,” the mindset shifts leaders must make around control and trust, and the importance of designing roles that allow you to spend 80% of your time doing what you love. Michèle also explores early warning signs of leadership overwhelm, how to modernize leadership for new generations, and the simple steps executives can take this week to create more space, sustainability, and joy in their work. If you’re a founder or leader looking to reclaim time and build a healthier, more self-sustaining organization, this episode is packed with clarity and practical insight.

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