What do you wish someone told you when you started in ministry?

In this episode, John Oliver is joined by Mark Santana from First Baptist Statesboro to reflect on the early days of leadership in the local church. From building trust with parents and volunteers to navigating expectations, they share honest lessons and encouragement for anyone just getting started or anyone guiding the next generation of leaders.

Whether you are leading students, adults, or your entire congregation, this conversation offers wisdom that reaches beyond youth ministry. Topics include:

• Why relational leadership always wins over performance pressure
• What to prioritize in your first year that will actually last
• The leadership rhythms that help you stay grounded
• Real talk about failure, growth, and long term faithfulness

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