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What if everything we were taught about hell was wrong—or at least incomplete?
What if judgment wasn’t about eternal torment, but transformation?
And what if grace is bigger, wider, and wilder than any of our doctrines can hold?
In this first part of a two-episode conversation, Jeromy sits down with David Artman, author of Grace Saves All and host of the Grace Saves All Podcast, to explore how he came to believe in Christian universalism—the hope that God’s love will, one day, restore everything and everyone.
Together they trace his story from evangelical roots to a faith shaped by progressive Christianity, the early church fathers, and a vision of grace that refuses to end at the gates of hell.
This is the invitation to rethink what salvation really means—and what the Gospel might sound like if love, not fear, had the final word.
David's Podcast, Grace Saves All.
Send us a text—We’d love to keep the conversation going.
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Grace doesn’t hold back. She breaks the rules, softens hearts, and loves without apology. The open, universal, unapologetic love of God. Together we’re building a braver, more honest space. Thanks for your support and for listening.
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Chapters
1. Opening and Introductions (00:00:00)
2. David's Book: Grace Saves All (00:05:10)
3. Path to Christian Universalism (00:07:22)
4. God Saves 100% of Humanity (00:14:38)
5. The Debate Begins: Evangelical vs. Universalist (00:18:53)
6. Judgement, Hell and Purgatory(?) (00:22:59)
7. Wrap Up (00:30:17)
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