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What does “rock bottom” actually look like — and do you really have to hit it before you get sober? In this episode, Matt and Steve break down the biggest myth in recovery: that you need a dramatic collapse, a lost job, a destroyed marriage, or a trip to the ER to justify getting help.

We talk about how comparison keeps people stuck (“my story isn’t as bad as theirs”), why so many of us lie to ourselves about how bad things really are, and how easy it is to miss the quieter signs that alcohol is running your life. Matt shares how his bottom wasn’t a crisis but a moment of clarity, and Steve talks about the years he spent ignoring warning signs because he wasn’t “that bad.”

You’ll hear:

• Why comparing your drinking to others can keep you sick
• How subtle “off-ramp moments” can be the real bottom
• What it means when someone tells you, “You might have a problem”
• Why sobriety isn’t about subtracting alcohol — it’s about adding tools, people, and freedom
• The truth about mood regulation and why we drink when we’re “too happy” or “too sad”
• Why you never need a catastrophe to decide you’re done

If you’re sober-curious, questioning your drinking, or wondering if it’s “bad enough,” this episode will hit home. You don’t need to lose everything to get your life back.

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