If you don’t have a point, everything you say is pointless.

Oliver speaks with Joel Schwartzberg, communication expert and author of “The Language of Leadership” and “Get to the Point” (updated edition out this month).

Let’s face it, there is too much rambling and hot air in business.

Joel shares concepts such as the “I Believe That” Test and the “XY Test” that help leaders ensure they have a clearly defined point before they speak.

This is a highly actionable episode about avoiding rambling for good, ditching the performance and instead delivering your message like a real human, and escaping the trap of truisms.

Find out more about Joel Schwartzberg: https://www.joelschwartzberg.net/

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