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Aaron and Michael of Jamie’s Elsewhere join the Talk Toomey Podcast to talk about their new EP *Alchemical* and the band’s evolving sound. They reflect on 20 years of Jamie’s Elsewhere, Aaron’s time fronting Of Mice & Men, and how that experience shaped the band’s next chapter. The guys share wild stories from the Myspace era, Sacramento’s scene, and building fire hazard light rigs for shows. Plus, how Aaron brought major-label-level infrastructure back to reboot Jamie’s with full force.

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