In this episode, Mike Baker, Vice President and Global CISO at DXC Technology, says the cyber industry has been focusing on the wrong side of AI. He believes too many companies use it only to block threats instead of studying how criminals use it to scale phishing, bypass defenses, and deploy adaptive malware.

Attackers are learning faster than ever, and security teams must catch up. Mike argues that defenders need to think differently and use AI as both protection and opportunity.

He shares how DXC is already doing this. The company has brought autonomous AI agents into its security operations through a partnership with 7AI. These agents process alerts that used to require hours of human effort. The result is faster detection, less burnout, and more time for analysts to investigate real threats. By cutting manual work by more than eighty percent, DXC has shown how AI can make cybersecurity teams stronger, not smaller.

Zero Trust remains a core part of DXC’s strategy. Mike calls it a journey that never ends. It needs cultural change, constant learning, and leadership that keeps security invisible to end users. AI now plays a role here too, improving identity checks and spotting access issues in real time. Yet, he reminds us, AI still needs people in the loop for oversight and judgment.

We also talk about supply chain risks. Too many companies still treat risk assessments as one-time tasks. Mike pushes for continuous monitoring and close collaboration with suppliers. He closes the conversation on a hopeful note. AI will not replace people in cybersecurity, he says. It will make their work more meaningful and more effective if used with care and common sense.