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Episode premise
Provocateurs wake us up. Profiteers keep us fighting. Builders create what lasts. In this episode, Debilyn traces that cycle across U.S. history and applies it to today’s shock after immigration raids, Charlie Kirk’s assassination and the Israel-Gaza truce — then invites you to choose your role in what comes next.
What we cover
- The family metaphor for national power struggles: control, protection, and who decides what comes next.
- Three forces in every crisis wave: provocateurs, profiteers, and hybrids who both provoke and profit.
- Why the outrage economy keeps the temperature high—and how exhaustion eventually opens space for builders.
- Historical “after-times” and what followed: post-Revolution institution-building, uneven Reconstruction, the New Deal floor, and the mixed stabilizations after the 1960s.
- Today’s reality post-UVU: investigations, campus responses, and how multiple communities are processing grief and fear simultaneously.
Try this: JEDI Futures personal visioning tool
- Download: https://jedifutures.org/program
- Use it solo or with friends to choose your role and sketch actions for your family, neighborhood, or campus this month.
Reflection prompts
- What type of leader do you seek right now—Sage, Caregiver, Builder, Bridge-Builder, or something else?
- What’s one place—family, workplace, neighborhood—where you can lower the temperature without silencing the truth?
- What are you creating for your future?
Further reading & reporting
- FBI investigation updates and reward info on the UVU shooting, including images of persons of interest. Federal Bureau of Investigation
- UVU’s memorial committee and campus response. Utah Valley University
- On-the-ground and follow-up coverage of the assassination and its aftermath. PBS
- Independent security review and what remains unknown one month later. Utah News Dispatch
- AP review reporting via KUER on security gaps at the venue. KUER
Terrified Nation is part of the American Future project, fiscally sponsored by Mediators Foundation. You can support this podcast by making a tax-deductible donation here.
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