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THAT PODCAST... in which the truth is out there, we jump down the conspiracy theory rabbit hole, let A.I. run our lives for a while, and wonder if democracy stands a chance - PART TWO


In Part 2, host Terry Gilliam discussed A.I. with Dr Cathy O’Neil and democracy with Open Democracy’s Mary Fitzgerald. This part also features original work by writer-performer Christopher Brett Bailey and playwright Stef Smith.


Content Warnings - graphic depictions of animal cruelty and self-harm


Episode 5, Part 2 credits:

Host - Terry Gilliam

Guest - Dr Cathy O’Neil

Guest - Mary Fitzgerald


Commissioned pieces:


I Saw Satan At The 7/11 by Christopher Brett Bailey

Writer-Performer - Christopher Brett Bailey

Director - Richard Twyman

Sound Designer - Mike Winship


The Truth Fairy by Stef Smith

Mya - Jessica Fostekew

Theo - Hana Doe

Director - Debbie Hannan

Sound Designer - Mike Winship

Writer - Stef Smith


Host script - Jennifer Bakst and Terry Gilliam

Interview sound recording - James Hingley

Interview editor - Martha Littlehailes

Testimonials Research - Aina J. Khan and Ruth McKee

Music – BMG Production Music

Production Co-ordinator - Madeleine Sharma

Assistant Producer - Ben Quashie

Producers - Andrew Hughes and Sarah Jane Murray

Series Producer - Ben Walker

Commissioning Editor - Jennifer Bakst

Consultant Producer - Holly Gilliam

Executive Producers - Robert Delamere and Richard Twyman

THAT PODCAST is a Storyglass and ETT co-production


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