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Superintelligence by Experience, Ethical Datasets, and Fine Dining by ChatGPT: The AI Argument EP62

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David Silver says today’s AI won’t get us to superintelligence, not because it isn’t impressive, but because it’s learning the wrong way.
GPT-style models hoover up internet text and get polished by human preference, but they’re capped by our own limitations.Silver reckons the next leap will come from AIs that learn the hard way: by doing things, learning from experience, and getting better.
Justin’s all in. He thinks we can bin every current regulation and replace it with one golden rule: the model must respond to human feedback.
Frank’s far from convinced. He sees a future full of unpredictable agents, long-term planning gone off the rails, and tech companies tearing ahead without full control over what they’ve built. One rule? He’d prefer a few more safety checks before we unleash the bots with big ambitions.
So who’s right? Can feedback really keep AI in line, or are we kidding ourselves?
Also covered: Midjourney’s stunning new video output and the lawsuits it might not outrun, EleutherAI’s copyright-free dataset, the warped moral values shared by today’s biggest models, and whether ChatGPT should be anywhere near your dinner plans.
► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED
Midjourney launches AI video model. How to try V1, how much it costs.
https://mashable.com/article/midjourney-v1-ai-video-generator
Disney and Universal sue AI firm Midjourney over images
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg5vjqdm1ypo
EleutherAI releases massive AI training dataset of licensed and open domain text
https://techcrunch.com/2025/06/06/eleutherai-releases-massive-ai-training-dataset-of-licensed-and-open-domain-text/
Utility Engineering: Analyzing and Controlling Emergent Value Systems in AIs
https://arxiv.org/abs/2502.08640
Is Human Data Enough? With David Silver
https://youtu.be/zzXyPGEtseI?si=9PKiQaGRFXGuoA97
This Year’s Hot New Tool for Chefs? ChatGPT.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/02/dining/ai-chefs-restaurants.html
► CONNECT WITH US
For more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.
Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/
Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

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Chapters

1. Superintelligence by Experience, Ethical Datasets, and Fine Dining by ChatGPT: The AI Argument EP62 (00:00:00)

2. Can Midjourney do video and dodge lawsuits? (00:00:50)

3. Did EleutherAI crack ethical AI training? (00:02:39)

4. Are all the big AIs becoming the same? (00:12:02)

5. Can David Silver's method unlock ASI? (00:16:36)

6. Would you eat what ChatGPT cooks up? (00:36:31)

47 episodes

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David Silver says today’s AI won’t get us to superintelligence, not because it isn’t impressive, but because it’s learning the wrong way.
GPT-style models hoover up internet text and get polished by human preference, but they’re capped by our own limitations.Silver reckons the next leap will come from AIs that learn the hard way: by doing things, learning from experience, and getting better.
Justin’s all in. He thinks we can bin every current regulation and replace it with one golden rule: the model must respond to human feedback.
Frank’s far from convinced. He sees a future full of unpredictable agents, long-term planning gone off the rails, and tech companies tearing ahead without full control over what they’ve built. One rule? He’d prefer a few more safety checks before we unleash the bots with big ambitions.
So who’s right? Can feedback really keep AI in line, or are we kidding ourselves?
Also covered: Midjourney’s stunning new video output and the lawsuits it might not outrun, EleutherAI’s copyright-free dataset, the warped moral values shared by today’s biggest models, and whether ChatGPT should be anywhere near your dinner plans.
► LINKS TO CONTENT WE DISCUSSED
Midjourney launches AI video model. How to try V1, how much it costs.
https://mashable.com/article/midjourney-v1-ai-video-generator
Disney and Universal sue AI firm Midjourney over images
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg5vjqdm1ypo
EleutherAI releases massive AI training dataset of licensed and open domain text
https://techcrunch.com/2025/06/06/eleutherai-releases-massive-ai-training-dataset-of-licensed-and-open-domain-text/
Utility Engineering: Analyzing and Controlling Emergent Value Systems in AIs
https://arxiv.org/abs/2502.08640
Is Human Data Enough? With David Silver
https://youtu.be/zzXyPGEtseI?si=9PKiQaGRFXGuoA97
This Year’s Hot New Tool for Chefs? ChatGPT.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/02/dining/ai-chefs-restaurants.html
► CONNECT WITH US
For more in-depth discussions, connect Justin and Frank on LinkedIn.
Justin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justincollery/
Frank: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankprendergast/

  continue reading

Chapters

1. Superintelligence by Experience, Ethical Datasets, and Fine Dining by ChatGPT: The AI Argument EP62 (00:00:00)

2. Can Midjourney do video and dodge lawsuits? (00:00:50)

3. Did EleutherAI crack ethical AI training? (00:02:39)

4. Are all the big AIs becoming the same? (00:12:02)

5. Can David Silver's method unlock ASI? (00:16:36)

6. Would you eat what ChatGPT cooks up? (00:36:31)

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