This is the audio recording of a lovely conversation I had with August Horstmann, owner and first generation rancher of Horstmann Cattle Company. I first was introduced to August through the meat he produces and wanted to learn more after hearing his story. So, I asked all my dumb questions.

What I particularly liked was his concept of first having a relationship to the soil. He uses cattle as a means to heal the ground. He sees himself as a scientist experimenting with animals to renew the land he owns. It's a beautiful thing.

If you're close to Missouri, go check him out and get his product. It's unbelievably good. If you're not, check out jakessteaks.com to see about delivery. Jake is the guy we talk about in the episode - the crazy man who's running around the nation delivering beef.

This is a great episode and I learned a lot. I think you will too.