My friends! I'm really excited to share this interview with the amazing Asha Frost. We had such a beautiful conversation, and Asha has so much wisdom to share, and does so eloquently.

Here's some of what Asha and I talk about in this episode:

> How Asha's Lupus diagnosis was a threshold moment in her life that made it impossible to keep up with the demands of our modern, capitalist, patriarchal, white supremacist culture – and how she continues to practice slowing down.

> The relationship between worthiness and productivity, and the paradox that creativity and "success" often flourish after periods of meaningful rest. As Asha so beautifully phrases, "miracles are born from rest."

> Asha shares some of her experiences of her matrescence – her rite of passage into motherhood.

> The potential that transformative times in our lives offer to invite us to divest from and disrupt dominant culture.

> Elderhood and the elder medicine that lives in all of us, including our non-human kin. Asha and I share our love of herons as elders, and gush over the beauty of her new Animal Elder deck.

> Cultural appropriation in the rites of passage space – and how, while it's unacceptable, it comes from our collective desire for meaningful ritual and ceremony to mark these transformative times in our lives.