📍Ultra-endurance athlete Jeff Garmire joins Navy SEAL David Rutherford to break down one of the most insane physical and mental feats ever attempted — a record-setting, unsupported 2,200-mile speed run of the Appalachian Trail in 45 days, 8 hours, and 37 minutes.

Jeff reveals:

• How he quit a life path that wasn’t his

• Why depression pushed him into the wilderness

• What 20 hours a day of problem-solving does to the mind

• How starvation, sleep deprivation, and hallucinations nearly broke him

• What the AT teaches about presence, identity, and authenticity

• Why suffering is the path to true freedom

This episode blends elite performance, mental health, spiritual presence, and raw survival stories — including the day Jeff ran 32 miles with only a handful of peanuts, and how he overcame brutal setbacks to secure the record.

If you’re drawn to endurance, resilience, military mindset, or the search for purpose… this conversation is a masterclass.

Next Steps:

• 🏫 Get coaching by David Rutherford: https://www.froglogicinstitute.com/
• 📕 Get David's novel, The Poet Warrior: https://www.ballastbooks.com/ballast-bookstore/the-poet-warrior
• 📰 Sign up for David's weekly newsletter for free coaching tips, updates, and more: https://davidrutherfordletter.substack.com/

00:00 - Intro

02:42 - Problem solving on the trail

03:55 - Why Jeff started hiking the AT

07:27 - Feeling the elation of the trail

12:13 - When did you decide to pursue this grand goal of endurance?

19:09 - Finding who you are through adversity

24:45 - Technical realities of attempting the record

29:32 - Life is suffering.

43:46 - Insane stories of challenges on the AT

59:23 - Crossing the finish line, beating the record, and the lessons learned

01:10:32 - The Trevor Project

01:14:13 - What’s next and how to follow/support Jeff

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