In this episode of The Spark, Katy welcomes back Ashley Johnson, Head of Brand Narrative at Pentagram in London, for a playful, after-hours chat that reveals a more mischievous side to the celebrated writer and strategist.

After their in-depth Creative Boom interview, this follow-up is all about quick-fire questions, impulsive stories and surprising confessions that shine a light on the person behind the craft.

Ashley reflects on the moments that keep her on her toes, shares a travel tale that takes an unexpected turn, and drops a few wonderfully awkward nuggets from her younger years. There are laughs, a touch of vulnerability, and plenty of sharp insights about creativity, communication and the quiet power of words. It's warm, witty and just a little unpredictable—the perfect companion piece to her main interview, and a reminder that the best sparks come when you loosen the rules and let the conversation roam