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What happens after the diagnosis?
In this raw and revelatory episode, co-hosts Marion Anderson and Danny Gluch sit down with guests Lia Seth and Don Ryan to explore the emotional whiplash of becoming — or realizing you’ve always been — disabled. From the relief of finally having an answer to the quiet rage of having to justify your needs again and again, this conversation unpacks the emotional toll behind the label.
We talk about:
- The surprise of late diagnosis and misdiagnosis
- Shame, fear, grief — and how they isolate
- The fight for accommodations and the sting of microaggressions
- What good allyship actually looks like
- Why managers need emotional fluency (and why it’s okay to mess it up)
This episode is for anyone navigating disability, supporting someone who is, or working in a system that still expects people to prove their pain before being believed.
Lia Seth is Director of People at Cylinder and a longtime HR pro. She’s an accessibility advocate, Girl Scout for life, and Seattle-based mountain enthusiast.
Don Ryan is a social worker and author of The Secret Struggle (2024), leading trauma and suicide prevention work in Minnesota with over 30 years of experience.
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