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Part 2: "Which Hard to Choose" (Part 2 of 2)
What happens when you do everything “right” and still don’t get in? When two full application cycles pass with no interviews? When you abandoned a degree program only to face rejection?
In part two of this Provider Pulse episode, Dr. Angelo Cabal picks up his story in Chicago, where a hard truth and a single conversation with his mentor push him to walk away from an MPH program and start over. Back home in San Diego, Angelo studies for the MCAT, moves in with his parents, and finds the patient-facing work he’d been longing for as a lung cancer clinical research coordinator.
But even with strong letters and meaningful experience, two consecutive medical school application cycles end with no interviews. Angelo talks candidly about shame, self-doubt, and the moment he decides to take an expensive leap into a post-bacc program—buoyed by the support of his oncologists and patients who keep asking, “How are your applications going?”
From there, he describes finally getting interviews, being accepted to UC Irvine, and discovering that the hardest part was getting in. We follow him through clinical rotations, an away rotation at Harborview Medical Center, and matching into internal medicine in Seattle, where he now cares for immigrants and refugees in the International Medicine Clinic.
Angelo closes with a message for anyone who has been rejected, rerouted, or talked themselves out of medicine: never let someone make you feel like you don’t deserve what you want—and seek the mentors who help you believe that you do.
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Chapters
1. Angelo Cabal Opening Quote (00:00:00)
2. Introduction, Recap of Part 1 (00:00:19)
3. Act I: Folded in Half - Leaving an MPH program in Chicago (00:01:02)
4. Reflection on Mentorship and the Impact of his Conversation (00:02:42)
5. Starting Over in San Diego: Moving Home (00:04:07)
6. Lung Cancer Research and Finding Patient-Facing Work (00:05:46)
7. Act 2: No Interviews After Two Application Cycles (00:06:40)
8. Post-bacc Decision and Being Carried by Patients' Support (00:09:10)
9. Act 3: Third Application Cycle, Zoom Interviews, Acceptance (00:11:25)
10. Medical School Reality: The Hardest Part was Getting In (00:12:52)
11. Act 4: Away Rotation at Harborivew and Match Day (00:14:10)
12. Intern Year and International Medicine Clinic at Harborview (00:16:49)
13. How a Nonlinear Journey Shapes the Way He Cares for Patients (00:17:40)
14. Vascular Surgeon's Advice and Message to Pre-health Students (00:19:04)
15. Becoming the Mentor He Needed for the Next Generation (00:20:59)
16. Final Reflection and Outro: "The Path Doesn't Have to Be Straight" (00:22:25)
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