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In this episode of The Evolving Leader podcast, co-hosts Scott Allender and Sara Deschamps sit down with Dr. Gabriele Rizzo, a global authority on strategic foresight who has advised NATO, the US Space Force and major government institutions. The conversation explores how leaders can shift their relationship with the future, moving from prediction and short-termism to building resilience and long-term value. Gabriele shares the laws of foresight, why multiple futures matter, and how to use practical tools like scenario planning and futures wheels to unlock new thinking in times of uncertainty.
This conversation is a guide to making space for future relevance. Gabriele Rizzo challenges the listener to see the unknown not as danger but as potential, and to build organisations capable of disruptive innovation rather than defending the status quo. Whether you’re leading through transformation, wrestling with the implications of AI, or seeking to balance immediate performance with long-term impact, this conversation offers practical and thought-provoking insights into how foresight can become a critical leadership advantage.
Further materials from Gabriele Rizzo
HR Futures 2030: A Design for Future-Ready Human Resources
Other reading from Jean Gomes and Scott Allender:
Leading In A Non-Linear World (J Gomes, 2023)
The Enneagram of Emotional Intelligence (S Allender, 2023)
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The Evolving Leader is researched, written and presented by Jean Gomes and Scott Allender with production by Phil Kerby. It is an Outside production.
Chapters
1. Introduction (00:00:00)
2. How did you develop a passion for foresight? (00:02:57)
3. How did you develop that? (00:04:28)
4. How should the general population think about the future? (00:06:46)
5. What is the mindset required to open up to the multiple possible outcomes that you’re describing? (00:08:43)
6. We notice when talking to leaders that there is a big struggle between holding the tension between short term performance and long-term future planning. (00:11:49)
7. How would you advise leaders who are completely overwhelmed by the pressures of delivering value today? (00:16:08)
8. In environments that are a bit more traditional, how might a leader make space for disruptive innovation without triggering resistance? (00:22:24)
9. Where are you seeing this happening in real time? (00:26:22)
10. How does your work help leaders learn to think and act differently when facing into an unknown future where what will be required of them will evolve and change? (00:28:39)
11. How does AI change all of this? (00:31:37)
12. Are there any other laws of foresight in addition to the two that you talk about? (00:34:03)
13. What is one practical thing that you would advise a listener to start implementing with their teams? (00:38:06)
14. What does your future look like? (00:40:53)
15. How to contact Gabriele Rizzo. (00:42:12)
16. Foresight Kitchen. (00:42:38)
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