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In this episode, Steve and Jake rip apart the mindset that’s holding most early-career engineers back — obsessing over salary before mastering their craft. Too many engineers chase numbers instead of value. The truth? Your first few years aren’t about the paycheck — they’re about stacking skills, earning leverage, and becoming undeniable. This isn’t theory. It’s practical, tactical advice from two engineers who’ve lived it — the grind, the plateaus, and the breakthroughs that turn potential into power.
Key Topics Covered
• Why focusing on salary too early kills long-term growth
• The “input vs. output” trap most engineers never escape
• How to build real leverage through deep, specialized skills
• The brutal truth about corporate pay equity and outlier performance
• Why “living like a college student” longer is the smartest investment
• How to identify companies that actually reward high performers
• Why high performers get boxed in — and how to break out
• The real difference between top 5% engineers and everyone else
• What companies owe you (and what they don’t)
• How to reframe your career from compensation-driven to mastery-driven
Actionable Steps
• Stop comparing your salary to others — focus on improving your skills 10% every month.
• Use your early career years to learn, experiment, and fail cheaply.
• Seek mentors and reverse-engineer the habits of people earning what you want.
• Track your inputs — hours, projects, learning — not just outcomes.
• Live below your means to buy freedom and time to grow.
• Take ownership of your career story and communicate your impact in business terms.
• Identify and move toward companies that reward merit, not tenure.
• Build a side project or specialization that sharpens your technical edge.
• Say yes to opportunities that expand your range, even if they don’t pay more right away.
• Reframe every career goal around who you must become to achieve it.
Who This Episode Is For
• Engineers frustrated with “pay stagnation” early in their careers
• New grads trying to negotiate their first offer
• Mid-level engineers who feel overlooked despite strong results
• High achievers tired of corporate ceilings and comparison traps
• Anyone ready to trade entitlement for ownership
Why It Matters
You don’t get paid for time — you get paid for value. And value comes from skill, reputation, and impact built over time. The engineers who focus on learning faster, thinking deeper, and executing harder will always outrun the ones chasing titles and raises. The money is a by-product. The growth is the goal.
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