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Hey leadership friends. Jeff had a great leadership conversation with Hal Donaldson, CEO and founder of Convoy of Hope. We felt it like you may find value in this conversation.

Hal shares the story of how Convoy started.

What Mother Theresa said to him that changed everything.

And how as a leader we can serve others without burning out.

Find more great conversations like this on The Collectives Conversations podcast with Jeff.

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