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Many makers struggle with the tension between creating work we love vs making work that we think will sell, especially when traditional academic instruction is often focused on concepts and what I call “Capital A Art” over the practical skills needed to make a living. What if the key isn't choosing between artistic integrity and commercial viability, but rather learning to work efficiently?

Olivia Avery's experience reveals how rigorous craftsmanship training—throwing 40-80 pots daily until she could self-evaluate and create consistent work—became the foundation that allows her to pursue intricate surface decoration while maintaining a viable business. Despite the unpredictability of markets where she might sell out of teapots one weekend and mugs the next, her willingness to price her labor-intensive, highly decorated functional work appropriately demonstrates how technical excellence and clear pricing boundaries can create space for both creative fulfillment and financial sustainability, even when it means accepting a smaller but more committed customer base.

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Chapters

1. Olivia Avery (00:00:00)

2. Keep? (00:06:00)

3. Meet Olivia Avery: The Potter's Journey (00:06:17)

4. The Physical Demands of Pottery (00:06:46)

5. Balancing Craftsmanship and Art (00:10:48)

6. The Role of Assistants in the Studio (00:14:34)

7. Navigating Art Shows and Markets (00:21:10)

8. Challenges and Strategies in Selling Pottery (00:27:12)

9. Debating the Merits of Different Pottery Projects (00:40:36)

10. The Challenges and Rewards of Selling at Markets (00:41:35)

11. Navigating Rejections and Building Resilience (00:43:26)

12. Discovering a Passion for Ceramics (00:45:02)

13. The Importance of Photography in Marketing (00:45:50)

14. Transitioning to a Full-Time Pottery Career (00:48:19)

15. BAD AUDIO (00:52:16)

16. RESAMPLED AUDIO (00:54:34)

17. The Unpredictability of Art Shows (00:58:13)

18. Considering an MFA and Future Plans (01:09:02)

19. Final Thoughts and Where to Find More (01:13:11)

20. Outro (01:15:54)

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