John Pudner, president of Freedom and Family Action and former Bush aide, weighs in on Trump’s new Ukraine arms deal, praising it as a smart move that stops American taxpayers from footing the bill while forcing Europe to defend itself. Pudner defends Trump’s handling of complex foreign conflicts, emphasizing the need for both sides to save face to avoid escalating violence. The conversation then shifts to the ongoing Epstein controversy, with Pudner siding mostly with Trump’s approach but acknowledging conservative division and the challenge of transparency in a politically charged environment. He expresses skepticism about full disclosure from the DOJ and FBI, highlighting the potential career fallout for voices like Dan Bongino if the truth doesn’t come out. The segment ends on the hope that political leaders will recognize the growing frustration among the base demanding real answers and accountability.