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Success isn’t a finish line you cross; it’s a practice you live. We dig into what it really means to create your own path—beyond titles, paychecks, and other people’s expectations—and share the tools that make it doable day after day. Katie and Rhonda compare goals‑driven hustle with a values‑driven approach, showing how acceptance, integrity, relationships, legacy, and creativity can become a practical compass for leadership decisions when the pressure is on.
We talk candidly about burnout, comparison traps, and the loneliness epidemic at work, then pivot to what actually helps: daily habits that compound, creative expression as reflective practice, and community rituals that make people feel seen. You’ll hear a simple leadership philosophy framework, examples of behavior‑based goals that reduce stress, and low‑lift rituals like a daily gratitude reminder that strengthens relationships and morale. Vulnerability isn’t a brand; it’s a bridge—so we share real low points, how support networks show up, and how to use those moments to rewrite your definition of success.
If meditation or journaling isn’t your thing, try intentional experimentation: voice notes, sketching, crochet, walking reflections, or a visible “wins board” to track impact. For teams, borrow our favorite prompts: ask “How will 2035 us judge this decision?” and “What version of this work makes us feel most alive?” These questions spark better strategy and healthier output by reconnecting people to meaning. By the end, you’ll have practical steps to design success on your terms and help your team do the same—one aligned habit, one honest check‑in, one courageous choice at a time.
If this resonated, follow the show, share it with a friend who needs it, and leave a quick review to help others find us. Tell us: what value will guide you this week?
Book recommendation: Project Unlonely by Dr. Jeremy Nobel
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Chapters
1. Welcome Back & Holiday Catch‑Up (00:00:00)
2. Success Means Different Things (00:02:27)
3. Values As Your Personal Compass (00:03:42)
4. Beyond Titles, Pay, And Status (00:07:12)
5. From Goals‑Driven To Values‑Driven (00:11:27)
6. Community, Creativity, And Loneliness (00:16:52)
7. Daily Pebbles: Habits And Micro‑Wins (00:20:02)
8. Vulnerability, Low Points, And Support (00:24:42)
9. Reflection Styles: Meditate, Journal, Create (00:30:37)
10. Intentional Experimentation At Work (00:36:52)
11. Future‑Self Questions And Aliveness (00:42:22)
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