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Mike talks with former Democratic activist Lisa Ekman, whose recently released book is titled Deprogramming Democrats & unEducating the Elites: How I Escaped the Progressive Cult.

Topics Mike & Lisa discuss include:

  • Ekman’s background in Democratic politics

  • government and expert failure during COVID

  • the tension between public health policy and liberty

  • the problem with replacing equality with equity

  • communist thinking in classrooms

  • returning power to the states and the people

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