In this conversation, Brandon Couch and Tony Winkler explore the complexities of recovery, childhood trauma, and the impact of family dynamics on personal growth. Tony shares his journey from a challenging upbringing without a father figure to his struggles with addiction and the consequences of his actions. The discussion explores the significance of honesty in recovery, the role of treatment programs, and the ongoing process of healing from past traumas. Through their candid dialogue, they highlight the significance of understanding one's past to navigate the path to recovery and personal responsibility. In this conversation, Brandon Couch shares his tumultuous journey through addiction, detailing the escalation of his alcohol abuse during military service, the challenges of marriage, and his eventual descent into hard drugs. He reflects on the impact of relationships on his substance use, the complexities of navigating the drug trade, and the pivotal moments that led him toward recovery.