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A mother’s psychosis, a father’s kindness, and a daughter learning to trust God more than outcomes—this conversation traces how early wounds shape our faith and why secure love can tether a drifting heart. I sit down with licensed marriage and family therapist and educator Danielle Cisneros to unpack trauma in a Pentecostal home, the silence that followed crises, and the loneliness that teaches kids to read rooms instead of resting in them. Danielle explains psychosis in clear, compassionate language, then shows how adaptive healing happens when safe people meet us where we are. Scripture became her refuge, but what truly rewired trust was a father who chose relationship over punishment and mentors who “mothered” her into wholeness.
We map how childhood survival strategies—control, people-pleasing, avoidance—break down in adult relationships and ministry. Healing doesn’t mean erasing the past; it means accepting reality, grieving what wasn’t, and practicing new responses until peace holds. We redefine ministry as meeting needs, not chasing titles—smiles, rides, protection, and presence where souls ache. And for anyone afraid to come back, we lay out simple first steps: watch a service online, fast from noise, read one psalm, write three sentences. Grace meets motion, and home starts with a single step.
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Chapters
1. Welcome And Guest Introduction (00:00:00)
2. Defining Psychosis And Family Impact (00:03:25)
3. Childhood Trauma, Silence, And Church Support (00:07:55)
4. Clinging To Scripture Amid Loneliness (00:12:10)
5. High School Rebellion And A Father’s Gentle Attachment (00:17:05)
6. Bible College, Calling, And Avoiding The Past (00:22:40)
7. Mentors, Mothering, And Healing Through Safe Relationships (00:27:50)
8. Adaptive Information, Attachment, And Resilience (00:32:45)
9. Mindfulness, Introspection, And Shame (00:38:20)
10. Broken Leaders, Secure Attachment, And Trusting God (00:44:00)
11. Parenting, Shame Cycles, And Trust As A Litmus Test (00:50:35)
12. Surrender, Sackcloth, And Learning To Trust (00:56:20)
13. Identity, Surrender, And Redefining Ministry (01:02:40)
14. Church Hurt Without Stone-Throwing (01:08:15)
15. Trauma Responses, Unmet Needs, And Adult Patterns (01:13:40)
16. Collateral Damage Versus Staying Connected (01:19:10)
17. The Next Generation’s Transparency And Hope (01:24:20)
18. A Word To Backsliders: Take One Step (01:29:20)
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