HBO and The Ringer's Bill Simmons hosts the most downloaded sports podcast of all time, with a rotating crew of celebrities, athletes, and media staples, as well as mainstays like Cousin Sal, Joe House, and a slew of other friends and family members who always happen to be suspiciously available.
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The default reaction of sellers and sales reps is to lean in and get more "persuasive".
But that's just code for being pushy, so don't do that.
Do a pattern-interrupt, instead.
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