Leaders aren’t born—they’re made. And with today's workplace being reshaped by and AI and the pandemic, leaders must now RE-learn how to lead. In this episode, Chad Kessler sits down with Dr. Bryan Deptula—author, speaker, and leadership consultant—to explore the art and science of leadership. Drawing from neuroscience-based leadership development and his proven M.U.S.C.L.E. framework, Bryan shares actionable strategies to empower your team, navigate crises, and grow as a leader. With compelling stories—including a life-changing moment of leadership wisdom inspired by a toddler’s perspective—this episode is packed with high-reward, low-risk insights to help you scale your business and build your "leader muscle." If you're leading a business and want to scale it up, this episode is a must.

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