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In Part 2 of “Between the Pulpit and the Spotlight,” we’re not looking back—we’re sitting right in the middle of one of the hardest seasons of our marriage. This isn’t about dating as ministers anymore. We’re married now. But life is life-ing, and ministry… it’s heavier than we imagined.
This episode is raw. Not past tense pain—present tense pressure.
We open up about:
💬 Facing unexpected challenges in ministry that shook our foundation
💬 The emotional and spiritual toll of serving while suffering
💬 What nearly pulled us apart—even after “I do”
💬 The decision to stay, even when walking away felt easier
This is real marriage. This is what happens when calling and crisis collide. When the spotlight fades and the silence sets in, but somehow… you hold on anyway.
Because the second time around? We still believe in this love—but it’s taking everything we’ve got.
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