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Two 2016 elections — President Donald Trump in the U.S. and Brexit in the United Kingdom — sent our global elites reeling. The only people not surprised that borders and sovereignty prevailed on both sides of the Atlantic, it seemed, were those still bold enough to call theselves nationalists.
Yoram Hazony was so bold as to be an unapologetic nationalist. So much so that he authored a book titled “The Virtue of Nationalism” in 2018. For the Right, the book articulated the gut-sense that nationalism, though portrayed as the boogeyman of modern Western history, was worth preserving. For the Left, it entered the canon of books to "understand Trump and the MAGA movement," which includes now Vice President JD Vance’s “Hillbilly Elegy.”
Seven years on, much has changed. President Donald Trump’s America First movement has completely altered the terms of America’s debates on immigration, trade, and foreign policy. His impact has sent shockwaves across the globe, from Argentina, to Hungary, to the Middle East and beyond. Now that nationalists are no longer considered fringe actors, Hazony is publishing a second edition to “The Virtue of Nationalism.”
He joined “The Signal Sitdown” to discuss the book and what to make of a more mature MAGA movement in the United States.
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