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Perfection looks powerful until it breaks a team. We sat down with Julie Booksh—licensed counselor, marriage and family therapist, and leadership coach—to rethink what real strength looks like inside complex systems. Julie’s journey from HR to therapy to organizational consulting frames a core insight: families and workplaces both protect a “normal temperature,” even when it stalls growth. To change the system, you start with the smallest circle you control—yourself—and expand outward with intention.
We dig into the inner critic that many high achievers mistake for motivation. Julie shows how that voice once served safety but now fuels burnout, anxiety, and comparison. Her definition of self-compassion is disarmingly simple and deeply practical: notice how you are, name it, and treat it with kindness before you try to fix anything. That shift separates guilt from shame. Guilt says you did something harmful; repair it. Shame says you are harmful; hide. Leaders who practice compassion can own mistakes without collapsing into self-contempt, which invites their teams to be honest, creative, and accountable.
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Meet the Host
Jay Johnson works with people and organizations to empower teams, grow profits, and elevate leadership. He is a Co-Founder of Behavioral Elements®, a two-time TEDx speaker, and a designated Master Trainer by the Association for Talent Development. With a focus on behavioral intelligence, Jay has delivered transformational workshops to accelerate high-performance teams and cultures in more than 30 countries across four continents. For inquiries, contact [email protected] or connect below!
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Chapters

1. How Self-Compassion Transforms Leadership and Culture with Julie Booksh (00:00:00)

2. Meet Julie: From HR To Therapist (00:01:15)

3. Systems Thinking In Work And Home (00:04:40)

4. Disrupting The Status Quo (00:08:33)

5. The Inner System And Self-Awareness (00:13:19)

6. Culture, Burnout, And Blame (00:18:38)

7. What Self-Compassion Really Means (00:24:31)

8. Taming The Inner Critic (00:30:41)

9. Shame Versus Guilt Clarified (00:37:02)

10. Ego In Dialogue With The Self (00:43:01)

11. Leadership, Vulnerability, And Safety (00:48:21)

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