Shawn Taikratoke, CEO and co founder of Mozee, joins the show to unpack one of the biggest questions in mobility today. How close are we to real autonomous transportation and what will actually move the needle in our cities. Shawn breaks down why the future is not a single robotaxi dream, but a more human centered shift in public transit that solves the first and last mile in a smarter way. If you care about how people move, how cities evolve, or how autonomy will reshape everyday life, this one is worth your time.

Key Takeaways

• The biggest transportation barriers are not technical. They come from how cities were built and how people actually move in short distances.

• Robo taxis will play a role, but public transit needs a more flexible and human centered model before adoption changes.

• Many Americans still have no access to reliable transit, which creates ripple effects in work, health, and community access.

• Real adoption will come when mobility becomes easier and cheaper than using your own car.

• Cities want smarter transit, but they need partners that help them bridge gaps without major infrastructure costs.

Timestamped Highlights

00:44 What Mozee was built to solve and why they avoided the pure robotaxi route

03:26 Why autonomy still scares most people and how public perception is shaping rollout

06:57 How regional culture and city layout shape transportation adoption

10:24 The vision for a mesh network of shared autonomous shuttles

16:24 How smarter first mile and last mile service can shift car dependence

21:52 What it takes to move from a handful of vehicles to true scale

27:54 Why Shawn moved from the robotaxi hype to solving public transit gaps instead

A standout thought

“Progress is rarely a straight line. The products that last are the ones that stay human centered.”

Pro Tips from the Conversation

• Transit solutions that work do not start with tech. They start with how people move in the real world.

• Scale only matters when it meaningfully makes someone’s day easier.

• If you want to understand mobility problems, talk to city officials. They know exactly where the gaps are.

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