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Genesis 19 doesn’t end with fire falling on Sodom—it ends with a story so troubling that many Bible readers skip right past it. Lot, his daughters, a cave, and choices that leave us asking, Why is this even in the Bible?
In this episode, Jim and the guys tackle one of Scripture’s most uncomfortable passages head-on. Together, they’ll explore:
Why the Bible doesn’t shy away from humanity’s darkest moments
How cultural context helps us understand what happened
The ripple effects of broken choices—and God’s ability to redeem
What this story teaches us about leadership, legacy, and faith under pressure
If you’ve ever wrestled with hard-to-read Bible stories, this conversation will help you see that even in the most disturbing moments, God’s Word is still telling one big, redemptive story.
📌 Subscribe, share, and join the discussion as we face the hard parts of Scripture—because every part counts.
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