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Philosophy professor Ed Feser joins us to discuss "ordo amoris," after the absurd controversy, which should never have arisen, over remarks by Vice President JD Vance that our first concern has to be toward people closest to us.

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Guest's Books (Selected) Immortal Souls: A Treatise on Human Nature Five Proofs of the Existence of God Philosophy of Mind Aquinas Guest's Website Edward Feser Guest's Twitter: @FeserEdward

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