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It took a lot for Shane Smith to get here. A pandemic wiped out one season. Tommy John surgery ended another. Chuck Garfien speaks with Smith about his baseball journey, how he ended up with the White Sox in the Rule-5 Draft, the pitch mix that has fooled the likes of Shohei Ohtani, Steven Kwan and Jose Ramirez, how much his parents have meant to him in his career and more.

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