In this conversation, Rissi Palmer and Kim Rapach delve into the significance of mental health, particularly within the context of the music industry. They discuss the barriers that Black women face in seeking therapy, the importance of finding a good therapist, and the impact of shame and grief on mental health. Rissi shares her personal journey through the music industry, the challenges she faced, and how she has navigated her mental health through self-care practices and therapy. The discussion emphasizes the need for vulnerability, creating safe spaces for artists, and the importance of open conversations about mental health.