Meet Ed McKenzie: programming wiz kid, Greg's bff and musical genius. Greg and Ed have been friends and business partners for 15 years. They first met playing in a band together in college and have since written hundreds of songs together and started two companies. What makes Ed a particularly interesting guest? Ed began coding at a young age when he discovered he could hack into his own video games. He then sold his first software to SoftDisk at 15 years old. He worked at Microsoft and Google writing foundational code for the internet. In this conversation, Ed and Greg explore the weight of online identities (aka why Ed doesn't really want to do this podcast), talk about how Ed discovered code at a very young age, and unpack why they are starting Aston Labs.