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Think Forward EP 141 - Banks Will Crumble Like Cookies, But Keep The Coffee Hot with Emmanuel Daniel
Think Forward: Conversations with Futurists, Innovators and Big Thinkers
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Emmanuel Daniel unpacks how digital finance prioritized monetization over true inclusion, then traces a larger shift from markets to networks where information compounds value. We test CBDCs, stablecoins, tokenized deposits, and ask whether debt has become the economy shaping tech, geopolitics, and personal wealth.
• VC‑driven digital finance and unmet inclusion claims
• Personalization versus centralization in money and platforms
• The ice trade analogy for financial inefficiency
• CBDCs stalling, stablecoins rising, tokenized deposits emerging
• China, India, and Africa leapfrogging legacy payments
• DeFi’s network logic versus TradFi’s market logic
• Debt as the economy and digitized sovereign liabilities
• 2035 outlook on tech advantage and investable nations
• History’s cycles informing finance futures
• Personal concerns about growing insularity and cross‑border work
Find Emmanuel’s work at emmanueldaniel.com. Think Forward Podcast: www.thinkforwardshow.com and on YouTube under ThinkForward Show
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Web: https://thinkforward.buzzsprout.com/
Thank you for joining me on this ongoing journey into the future. Until next time, stay curious, and always think forward.
Chapters
1. The VC Playbook Of Digital Finance (00:00:00)
2. Meet Emmanuel Daniel And TAP Global (00:01:06)
3. Front‑Row Views On China And The US (00:03:20)
4. Finance Lessons For Geopolitics (00:07:26)
5. The Great Transition: Personalization (00:09:34)
6. Salsa, Society, And Self‑Organizing Systems (00:12:06)
7. Platforms, Power, And Data Ownership (00:15:22)
8. The Ice Trade Analogy For Money (00:18:15)
9. CBDCs, Stablecoins, And Tokenized Deposits (00:21:06)
10. Asia, Africa, And Leapfrog Payments (00:26:14)
11. DeFi Mechanics And Networked Value (00:31:01)
12. Debt As The Economy (00:35:03)
13. 2035: Debt, Tech, And Attractiveness (00:38:49)
14. History’s Cycles And Tech Regimes (00:42:13)
15. What Truly Keeps Me Up At Night (00:45:47)
16. Legacy, Next Book, And Where To Find Me (00:49:01)
17. Closing And Show Information (00:51:20)
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