In Episode 233 of Thinking Deeply about Primary Education, Kieran Mackle is joined by Jon Cripwell, Primary Maths National Education Lead at Twinkl and long-time collaborator with the NCETM. Together they explore Jon’s unconventional path into teaching, how struggling with maths led him to become a passionate advocate for the subject, and the vital role of empathy in subject leadership. The conversation offers powerful insights into supporting anxious teachers, fostering meaningful CPD, and sustaining curricular change across school contexts.

Listeners will gain:

• First-hand reflections on transforming maths anxiety into instructional strength

• Practical strategies for building confidence in colleagues reluctant to teach upper Key Stage 2 maths

• Lessons on sustaining professional growth beyond formal roles

Whether you're a school leader, maths lead, or CPD enthusiast, this episode offers a grounded look at what it really takes to lead meaningful, lasting change.

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