Show Notes: To Be and Do –

Guests: Amy Rich, John Rich

Host: Phillip Amerson

Location: Patchwork Central, Evansville, Indiana

In this episode, host Phillip Amerson welcomes back Amy and John Rich, co-directors of Patchwork Central, for the second conversation about their work and vision for building community in Evansville, Indiana. The discussion takes a heartfelt look at the challenges and hopes surrounding Patchwork Central, with an emphasis on the future of social programming, the impact of Medicaid changes, and the spiritual and practical realities of serving a diverse neighborhood.

Three Key Takeaways:

1. Navigating Uncertainty and Gathering Storms

Amy and John express both a deep commitment to their work and significant concern about the future amid systemic funding cuts and increasing barriers for vulnerable populations. Amy describes the environment as being in “Flex,” with so many unknowns affecting the sustainability of Patchwork’s programs—not only due to direct funding but also ripple effects impacting collaborating organizations. John highlights the practical consequences of health policy changes, especially around Medicaid cuts and new work requirements, and foresees an overwhelming surge in need for basic care that may exceed the organization’s capacity.

2. Theological and Cultural Reflections on Poverty

The conversation goes beyond policy to grapple with deeper societal questions. Phillip probes the recurring tendency in American society to blame the poor for their circumstances. John reflects on this issue through a lens combining psychology, cultural history, and theology. He names the ways tribalism, class dynamics, and even church culture can reinforce “us vs. them” mentalities, noting that compassion fatigue and overwhelming societal challenges are causing some faith communities to retreat from active engagement with social justice.

3. Symbols of Resilience and Hope

Asked about the symbols or stories that sustain them, John shares a touching story about a stole pieced together from meaningful fabrics—a reminder of both his calling and his partnership with Amy. He humorously recounts his “Mountain Dew epiphany,” a formative, vision-filled night powered by caffeine and youthful desperation. Amy finds inspiration in Patchwork’s eclectic mix of objects, donated goods, and the unexpected treasures that embody the organization’s resourcefulness and diversity. Together, these symbols represent the unpredictability, creativity, and profound connections at the heart of Patchwork.

Listen in for a candid, thoughtful exploration of what it means to “be and do” in a changing world, and discover why Patchwork Central continues to be a beacon of hope amid uncertainty.

Find out more or donate: https://patchwork.org