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The university vs real-world debate has a clear winner, right? Nope! It doesn't.
This episode digs into whether formal education or street-smart hustle builds better entrepreneurs.
From football dreams to full-time business owners on the Gold Coast, we share our completely different journeys - one of us with a degree, the other without.
What lessons did we learn?
What failures did we face?
And most importantly, do you really need a degree to become a successful entrepreneur?
Whether you’re 18 and wondering what’s next, stuck in a job you hate, or ready to go all-in on your own business, you’ll discover:
✅ What university actually gives you (and what it doesn’t)
✅ The skills real life teaches that uni can’t
✅ The mindset you need to make it as an entrepreneur
✅ How to build confidence, resilience, and a business without formal qualifications
✅ The cost of not learning in 2025 (hint: it's more than student debt)
✅ What we’d do differently if we were 18 again
If you're questioning the education system, your career path, or your ability to “make it” without a degree, this one’s for you.
Key Moments
00:06:20 Moving to Australia
00:14:40 Learning Resilience Through Shit Jobs
00:23:40 The Degree Debate
00:27:00 Which Path Builds More Confidence
00:32:40 Network and Opportunity
00:43:00 University Dropout Statistics
00:49:20 Teaching Kids Real Business Early
00:58:00 Do You Really Need a Degree
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👉Connect with us
https://www.instagram.com/twoblokesonebusiness
https://www.linkedin.com/company/two-blokes-one-business-podcast
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Adam Powell & Harvey Rivers are the founders of HARWELL.
HARWELL. are renowned in the recruiting space - specialising in finding top talent within the Construction, Accountancy & Finance & Labour Hire sectors. Along with eCommerce.
Their award-winning concierge approach is helping companies attract exceptional talent to their team.
👉Want help finding exceptional talent for your business?
Get in touch with Adam, Harvey, and the team at HARWELL. https://www.harwellconsulting.com.au/
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