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Summer rerun series. In this episode that originally aired on November 20, 2024 host Michael Ryan interviews aviation expert Todd Curtis. They talk about Curtis' appearance at Contact in the Desert last June and his five categories that help define what a UAP is. They also talk about the fact that drones are making it harder to tell what's a UFO and what isn't. You can check out Todd's company Airsafe.com here.

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