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In this episode, Calli welcomes back her husband, Stephan Bodilis, to discuss the importance of leadership, coaching, and the need for hope in the workplace. They explore the concept of the 'Platinum Leadership Rule,' which emphasizes treating others the way they want to be treated, and the significance of understanding individual preferences in feedback. The conversation also highlights the alarming gap between career promotions and the timing of professional coaching, as well as the challenges leaders face in maintaining productivity amidst distractions and a declining attention span. He emphasizes the need for leaders to inspire and support their teams, the significance of listening as a leadership skill, and the essential quality of caring for team members.

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